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	<title>Comments on: Obama’s Roots: AFROCENTRISM</title>
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		<title>By: robert belcher</title>
		<link>http://paxety.com/2008/04/17/obama%e2%80%99s-roots-afrocentrism/comment-page-1/#comment-2076</link>
		<dc:creator>robert belcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 13:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Egypt or KMT is and was and ever shall be in Africa. No amount of jedi mind tricks will change that fact. Europe did not give rise to Kamite civilization. We are no doing Glotolchronology on the languages of KMT and West African languages and find that dates of migration match with the times of barbarian immigration from the north. The truth crushed to earth will rise.
Hotep!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egypt or KMT is and was and ever shall be in Africa. No amount of jedi mind tricks will change that fact. Europe did not give rise to Kamite civilization. We are no doing Glotolchronology on the languages of KMT and West African languages and find that dates of migration match with the times of barbarian immigration from the north. The truth crushed to earth will rise.<br />
Hotep!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had a chines girlfriend once she was hot. said i was idiot an destryed my racal sefl-esteem.</description>
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		<title>By: Mahone Dunbar</title>
		<link>http://paxety.com/2008/04/17/obama%e2%80%99s-roots-afrocentrism/comment-page-1/#comment-1818</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahone Dunbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grownman: 
Ancient Egypt was a Mediterranean civilization, not a sub-Saharan civilization.  This fact is singularly unpalatable to the racially sensitive tastes of the Afrocentrist.   Some of Belcher’s assertions are clearly absurd and I wasn’t going to respond point for point to his lengthy diatribe, particularly since he clearly hasn’t assimilated the data which I presented. However, here are some noteworthy points. 
Belcher wrote: 
	&quot;How people have been accepted and treated within the context of a given society or culture has a direct impact on how they perform in that society. The “racial” worldview was invented to assign some groups to perpetual low status, while others were permitted access to privilege, power, and wealth. The tragedy in the United States has been that the policies and practices stemming from this worldview succeeded all too well in constructing unequal populations among Europeans, Native Americans, and peoples of African descent. Given what we know about the capacity of normal humans to achieve and function within any culture, we conclude that present-day inequalities between so-called “racial” groups are not consequences of their biological inheritance but products of historical and contemporary social, economic, educational, and political circumstances.&quot;

Note that his thesis presents racial underachievement as the result of  a “worldview”, as if a cabal of powerful individuals/organizations existed several hundred years ago and as if a pre-United Nations world was not even more discordant than our current world.  (This alone marks Belcher as delusionary) One has to note that this kind of unity-of-action on a globular scale only reveals itself to the more paranoid among us. And, of course, he doesn’t address the fact that other once excluded and devalued cultures in America, like the Chinese, the Irish, and even the Japanese (who were bitter enemies within recent memory) have fused with American culture and even risen to eminence.   
  	
Any individual black human can be as smart or smarter than any individual Oriental, Caucasian or member of another group.  However, when it comes to statistics the sub-Saharan race is low man on the totem pole.  Nature, in her wisdom, does not endow all humans with the same abilities or capabilities; hence, when you crunch the numbers, some identifiable groups will  outperform others.  Nature is not an egalitarian democrat politician; she is a realist.  This is the burr under the saddle of the Afrocentrist. And as far as the idea that a monolithic “racial worldview” was invented to assign some groups to low status, well, frankly, when those from the societies of the industrial age and pre-industrial age first encountered sub-Saharans they found them maintaining the most primitive of cultures imaginable, sans even a written language.  This lack of culture (vestigial, at best) and achievement, combined with striking racial features, seemed to mark the sub-Saharan African as the very apotheosis of human primitivism. 

Therefore, there was no secret cabal involved, merely egotistic humans doing what came naturally by imputing a large degree of racial inferiority to those they seemed obviously superior to.  This has been the nature of civilizations since recorded history, and if you study African culture in depth, you will find that they, tribe by tribe,  consider themselves superior to others, as did American Indians, Egyptians, Greeks, etc. etc. etc. Most cultures, or races, have assumed themselves to be the Crown Of Creation.  Yet, Black Americans have to resort to trying to steal another culture’s glory because they find the nimbus on their own is so dull. 

	The most astounding evidence that the Afrocentrists ignore is the iconic record left by the ancient Egyptians. These show a civilization that is physically like the modern Egyptians, which is no surprise; and when, in line drawings, or paintings, the ancient Egyptians depicted a Nubian, they look like your basic sub-Saharan individual, with broad noses, afro hairdos and even the distinctly rounded butts. With rare exception black Africans were not part of the Egyptian civilization; a dynasty of three black pharaohs did rule briefly, but they were from Nubia and took over Egypt after a civil upheaval occurred. It would be as if the Chinese moved in and took over America after a major civil upheaval. It would mean that we had three Chinese presidents, but not that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, etc., were Chinese, nor that the Chinese founded America. 
	As for the modern Egyptians, they maintain that their ancestors were not black Africans. And black Africans themselves do not maintain that ancient Egypt was a black culture. This is strictly a belief of black Americans desperate to distance themselves from sub-Saharan civilization and to attach themselves to something more noteworthy by supplanting another racial group’s place in history.  In the long run, Belcher and his cronies will not advance the cause of improving the lives of black Americans by willfully stealing another culture.  Racial self-esteem is not a transferable commodity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grownman:<br />
Ancient Egypt was a Mediterranean civilization, not a sub-Saharan civilization.  This fact is singularly unpalatable to the racially sensitive tastes of the Afrocentrist.   Some of Belcher’s assertions are clearly absurd and I wasn’t going to respond point for point to his lengthy diatribe, particularly since he clearly hasn’t assimilated the data which I presented. However, here are some noteworthy points.<br />
Belcher wrote:<br />
	&#8220;How people have been accepted and treated within the context of a given society or culture has a direct impact on how they perform in that society. The “racial” worldview was invented to assign some groups to perpetual low status, while others were permitted access to privilege, power, and wealth. The tragedy in the United States has been that the policies and practices stemming from this worldview succeeded all too well in constructing unequal populations among Europeans, Native Americans, and peoples of African descent. Given what we know about the capacity of normal humans to achieve and function within any culture, we conclude that present-day inequalities between so-called “racial” groups are not consequences of their biological inheritance but products of historical and contemporary social, economic, educational, and political circumstances.&#8221;</p>
<p>Note that his thesis presents racial underachievement as the result of  a “worldview”, as if a cabal of powerful individuals/organizations existed several hundred years ago and as if a pre-United Nations world was not even more discordant than our current world.  (This alone marks Belcher as delusionary) One has to note that this kind of unity-of-action on a globular scale only reveals itself to the more paranoid among us. And, of course, he doesn’t address the fact that other once excluded and devalued cultures in America, like the Chinese, the Irish, and even the Japanese (who were bitter enemies within recent memory) have fused with American culture and even risen to eminence.   </p>
<p>Any individual black human can be as smart or smarter than any individual Oriental, Caucasian or member of another group.  However, when it comes to statistics the sub-Saharan race is low man on the totem pole.  Nature, in her wisdom, does not endow all humans with the same abilities or capabilities; hence, when you crunch the numbers, some identifiable groups will  outperform others.  Nature is not an egalitarian democrat politician; she is a realist.  This is the burr under the saddle of the Afrocentrist. And as far as the idea that a monolithic “racial worldview” was invented to assign some groups to low status, well, frankly, when those from the societies of the industrial age and pre-industrial age first encountered sub-Saharans they found them maintaining the most primitive of cultures imaginable, sans even a written language.  This lack of culture (vestigial, at best) and achievement, combined with striking racial features, seemed to mark the sub-Saharan African as the very apotheosis of human primitivism. </p>
<p>Therefore, there was no secret cabal involved, merely egotistic humans doing what came naturally by imputing a large degree of racial inferiority to those they seemed obviously superior to.  This has been the nature of civilizations since recorded history, and if you study African culture in depth, you will find that they, tribe by tribe,  consider themselves superior to others, as did American Indians, Egyptians, Greeks, etc. etc. etc. Most cultures, or races, have assumed themselves to be the Crown Of Creation.  Yet, Black Americans have to resort to trying to steal another culture’s glory because they find the nimbus on their own is so dull. </p>
<p>	The most astounding evidence that the Afrocentrists ignore is the iconic record left by the ancient Egyptians. These show a civilization that is physically like the modern Egyptians, which is no surprise; and when, in line drawings, or paintings, the ancient Egyptians depicted a Nubian, they look like your basic sub-Saharan individual, with broad noses, afro hairdos and even the distinctly rounded butts. With rare exception black Africans were not part of the Egyptian civilization; a dynasty of three black pharaohs did rule briefly, but they were from Nubia and took over Egypt after a civil upheaval occurred. It would be as if the Chinese moved in and took over America after a major civil upheaval. It would mean that we had three Chinese presidents, but not that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, etc., were Chinese, nor that the Chinese founded America.<br />
	As for the modern Egyptians, they maintain that their ancestors were not black Africans. And black Africans themselves do not maintain that ancient Egypt was a black culture. This is strictly a belief of black Americans desperate to distance themselves from sub-Saharan civilization and to attach themselves to something more noteworthy by supplanting another racial group’s place in history.  In the long run, Belcher and his cronies will not advance the cause of improving the lives of black Americans by willfully stealing another culture.  Racial self-esteem is not a transferable commodity.</p>
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		<title>By: Grownman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grownman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 16:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve enjoyed this thread. It&#039;s scary that Blecher thinks he is educated-its scarier that others think he is educated. I know Egyptians and I have been to Egypt and they look just like the people who have been living there for the past 6,000 years or more. Oh! the wheat they grew was domesticated on the shores of the Caspain Sea. There is a growing body of evidence which puts the Trans-Caucaus as the real cradle of civilization. When one looks at the geography that area has it all-&#039;ocean&#039; mountains, well drained plains, ample water and diverse climates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed this thread. It&#8217;s scary that Blecher thinks he is educated-its scarier that others think he is educated. I know Egyptians and I have been to Egypt and they look just like the people who have been living there for the past 6,000 years or more. Oh! the wheat they grew was domesticated on the shores of the Caspain Sea. There is a growing body of evidence which puts the Trans-Caucaus as the real cradle of civilization. When one looks at the geography that area has it all-&#8217;ocean&#8217; mountains, well drained plains, ample water and diverse climates.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahone Dunbar</title>
		<link>http://paxety.com/2008/04/17/obama%e2%80%99s-roots-afrocentrism/comment-page-1/#comment-1811</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahone Dunbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roscoe: she’s so lucky she wasn’t an albino, or else he might have cut her up and sold her for parts when he finished.  BTW, if he stayed around for days, he beat the average of most black men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roscoe: she’s so lucky she wasn’t an albino, or else he might have cut her up and sold her for parts when he finished.  BTW, if he stayed around for days, he beat the average of most black men.</p>
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		<title>By: Roscoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roscoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Obama, Sr. hammered the white girl for far more than one night.  I think it was a couple of months.</description>
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		<title>By: Mahone Dunbar</title>
		<link>http://paxety.com/2008/04/17/obama%e2%80%99s-roots-afrocentrism/comment-page-1/#comment-1809</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahone Dunbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 12:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy, your hero, Mr. Belcher, wrote:
&quot;When your immigrant family arrived here in the west and were treated like $h!T by other white how did that make your family feel.&quot;

Not as bad as if I were indigenous sub-Saharan (i.e., black) African and my relatives captured me and sold me to Arabs for eventual resell to the West. 


And: “Now that you are Officially white now and not considered lower class based on origin I am sure you were your tartan with pride.”

My whiteness has never been in doubt by anyone who has seen me.  My male ancestors did not wear tartan skirts (not ‘were’, unless you write ebonic also), they were from Iceland. Their thighs would have frozen. 


And: “I have a tartan too. I am a Phillips (Masa wanted some strange one night god bless America).

And homey wanted some snow one night and we got Obama.  Dude, I think that makes us more than even on the slavery thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy, your hero, Mr. Belcher, wrote:<br />
&#8220;When your immigrant family arrived here in the west and were treated like $h!T by other white how did that make your family feel.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not as bad as if I were indigenous sub-Saharan (i.e., black) African and my relatives captured me and sold me to Arabs for eventual resell to the West. </p>
<p>And: “Now that you are Officially white now and not considered lower class based on origin I am sure you were your tartan with pride.”</p>
<p>My whiteness has never been in doubt by anyone who has seen me.  My male ancestors did not wear tartan skirts (not ‘were’, unless you write ebonic also), they were from Iceland. Their thighs would have frozen. </p>
<p>And: “I have a tartan too. I am a Phillips (Masa wanted some strange one night god bless America).</p>
<p>And homey wanted some snow one night and we got Obama.  Dude, I think that makes us more than even on the slavery thing.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy ethridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmy ethridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 05:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love you Mr. Belcher.</description>
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		<title>By: tee bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>tee bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4 the brothers dont worry about small shit same 4 whites.  n scope of thing we only have a nano second here on this blue ball(earth)so work hard educated your kids 2+2 abc.instead of who right &amp; who wrong.we already have game shows(price is right,who wants to be millionarie)etc.ps if someone knew everything why do they still write books.hows my writing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4 the brothers dont worry about small shit same 4 whites.  n scope of thing we only have a nano second here on this blue ball(earth)so work hard educated your kids 2+2 abc.instead of who right &amp; who wrong.we already have game shows(price is right,who wants to be millionarie)etc.ps if someone knew everything why do they still write books.hows my writing</p>
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		<title>By: tee bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>tee bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when do most white males start to protect white females from black males?when they start playing sports .that 1st day they walk past the shower.being a white boy it didnt bother me.because i can hang too baby. how about TIGER BIG DIK WOOD seems like hes tring to help out us whities by having some babies instead of buying dogs and cats.be proud of who u r not what u r</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when do most white males start to protect white females from black males?when they start playing sports .that 1st day they walk past the shower.being a white boy it didnt bother me.because i can hang too baby. how about TIGER BIG DIK WOOD seems like hes tring to help out us whities by having some babies instead of buying dogs and cats.be proud of who u r not what u r</p>
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